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Grandads WW2 photos (North Africa)
MAJORMASTERBATESDate: Sunday, 2020-01-19, 4:42 PM | Message # 1
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https://imgur.com/gallery/9LkrxLA

Said to duck i'd put these on here and if anyone else interested...
Grandad was in 8th army 44th division which was a TA division until it was
disbanded in January 1943 after 2nd battle of El Alamein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/44th_(Home_Counties)_Division
He went on to Italy in some capacity with 8th army after that with that campaign I know.
I have a folder TOP SECRET of army movements in Italy up until late 44 I'll photograph and upload some point.
It also appears he was at Dunkirk in 1940 going by the newspaper clipping.
He was in CMP essentially military police but he saw action at times it
seems if things got "hot", he mostly seemed to direct traffic, guard
POWs, VIPs, sort equipment caught in the "bag", rearguard action, sort
human remains, being bombed by cleaner and air troll....Look at the
photo of Montgomery and I believe Von Armin...
Unfortunately he died in 1996 so so I can only go by what I've been told by relatives and this
stuff....that generation are all but gone now.
In the desert there was never really anywhere to dig in or take cover so you just
faceplanted the ground and hoped you'd survive apparently.
Feel free to use them for research or whatever.
I find anything else I'll upload it.
If anyone else has photos add them to this thread maybe.
Cheers.
 
Born-1942Date: Sunday, 2020-01-19, 5:49 PM | Message # 2
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WOW surprised  amazing, North Africa was really more than just a desert, it looked like they were really in hell with all that going on. 

some videos about it.



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Nicknames BornDarkness and Soldado da Wehrmacht
 
MAJORMASTERBATESDate: Sunday, 2020-01-19, 6:51 PM | Message # 3
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Yeah his division was on the south flank at one point near the Quatarra depression it appears must've been similar to what the Germans experienced in Russia with endless nothing.
 
bubuDate: Tuesday, 2020-01-21, 8:34 PM | Message # 4
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Wow interesting.
 
MAJORMASTERBATESDate: Wednesday, 2020-01-22, 2:17 AM | Message # 5
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btw could use these for events, shame too late for modders to use them in loading screens though sad

Also might see some of these elsewhere on google etc, he always said they were "his photos" apparently but with him being dead now and the passage of time who really knows and what else could be hiding!

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navyduck10Date: Sunday, 2020-01-26, 3:30 PM | Message # 6
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Thanks so much for sharing Major, really interesting photographs, those were some really tough men out there in the desert.

Which one is your grandfather in that first group picture?

Also, very interesting picture of the 15 cm sFH13/1 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine Schlepper, a converted French tractor with a 150mm howitzer, less than a hundred produced!
 
MAJORMASTERBATESDate: Monday, 2020-01-27, 2:54 AM | Message # 7
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Welcome, I wanted to scan it all to archive it anyway, it was with a lot of stuff that was his or he must of inherited.

There's a ww1 tobacco tin with some papers inside, haven't fully looked at it yet no idea how he got that. They were issued in 1914 to soldiers as a way of saying sorry you're in this pointless war so here's a tin full of ciggies i suppose.  Also a fairly worn green beret with a badge, green berets were and are worn by RM Commandos so that's interesting. Another thing is that Italian theatre folder which I'll put up soon might be of interest.

Anyone have any backstory on the Italian language postcard btw?.

Yeah they were tough, everyone back then on all sides were another species frankly.
"John Cook" hes called is on the top left, the goofy looking one hes on my maternal side. My dad has an inherited box with a F load of medals in it so going to have to go through that lot at some point, one or maybe 2 for certain are from the Crimean war I know, a Victoria cross for instance have gone for hundreds of thousands of pounds so excited to look through that.

I was looking up on IWM site and found 4 of the photos with authors credit so he didn't take those and they look obviously for propaganda, how they ended up in his album i'll never know but rest have to be his as I was told he did take photos and ones with POWs for example go in line with him being an MP.
That one with the German is General von Thoma surrendering I thought it was von Arnim for some reason btw.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205087627
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205193493
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205196160
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205194821
 
MAJORMASTERBATESDate: Thursday, 2020-02-13, 0:28 AM | Message # 8
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Heres some photos of the folder arent't in correct order >_<, appears to be a record of criminal activities in the allied army! also the WW1 cigarette tin.

https://imgur.com/gallery/sPTiMaz
 
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